04/13/21
Message Overview:
Message Description:
Right engine surge bleed valve A suspect.
[MCID 0420]
SBV A suspect.
Detection of suspect operation in SBV A.
The electronic control units (ECUs) have detected P3 pressure changes and suspect SBV A is slow to respond.
Possible Causes:
- Surge Bleed Valve (SBV) A
- Associated Wiring
Troubleshooting Tips:
Advisory Wire/Service Bulletin: None
Forum Articles/Infoservice/Newsletter: None
- If the L or R ENGINE MINOR FAULT CAS message is shown with this fault, this is a Short Term dispatch (STD) fault and is subject to correction outlined in the Honeywell LEMM SUBTASK 5-10-00-200-003.
- If a L or R FADEC FAIL CAS message is shown, this is a No Dispatch (ND) fault and is subject to correction outlined in the Honeywell LEMM SUBTASK 5-10-00-200-003.
- Check for the following MDC messages displayed with the fault: X-channel bus 1A (MCID 0905), X-channel bus 1B (MCID 0906), X-channel discrete 1A (MCID 0933), X-channel discrete 1B (MCID 0934). If any of the above MCID codes are posted, correct the cross channel faults first.
Issues with the N1 shutoff (Broken Shaft Connector), or bleed surge valves, contact Honeywell FSR and find out about status of Dash 12 W5 harness. Ref Honeywell S/B AS907-76-9011. Most likely tied to connector pin friction or loose connector.
Quick Links:
| Removal of the Trim-Surge Bleed Valves | AMM 75-31-06-000-801 |
| Installation of the Trim-Surge Bleed Valves | AMM 75-31-06-400-801 |
| Removal of the Engine Electronic Control Unit (ECU) | AMM 76-10-05-000-801 |
| Installation of the Engine Electronic Control Unit (ECU) | AMM 76-10-05-400-801 |
| Wiring - Maintenance Practices - ALL | SPM 20-12-00-02 |
| Wire Repair - Maintenance Practices - ALL | SPM 20-12-10-02 |
| Electrical Connectors - Maintenance Practice - ALL | SPM 20-20-00-02 |
Troubleshooting Recommendations:
- MCID 0420 fault only is present, troubleshoot using the following steps for aircraft and engine fault isolation with reference to the Light Engine Maintenance Manual TASK 72-00-00-810-063.
- Reset and reboot the ECU to recheck the MDC MCID for the posted fault.
- Remove the connector on the ECU 1A W4P13, ECU 1B W3P9 and inspect for burned or pushed back pins/sockets, particularly pins 53 and 48, inspect for damage, then check the following segments per the table, repair wiring if required per the wiring manual standard practices.
- On W3P9 and W4P13 pins 53 and 48, document the resistance value down through the coil of the Solenoid A of Surge Bleed Valve A. Resistance should be 10 to 80Ω, IAW Honeywell LMM.
- If the wiring is suspected, access W3P12 & W4P16 . Check the connector and pins for damage. Consider ringing out the SBV A, particularly on pin 10 and 11 of W5J1 & W5J9.
- Check the connection on the SBV A by examining W5P5.
From To Value W3P9 Pin 53 W3P9 Pin 48 10 to 80 Ω W4P13 Pin 53 W4P13 Pin 48 10 to 80 Ω W5J1 Pin 10 W5J1 Pin 11 10 to 80 Ω W5J9 Pin 10 W5J9 Pin 11 10 to 80 Ω W5P5 Pin 1 W5P5 Pin 2 10 to 80 Ω W5P5 Pin 3 W5P5 Pin 4 10 to 80 Ω - If the wiring is good and the valve solenoid resistance is out of limits, replace SBV A Trim Surge Bleed Valve IAW AMM TASK 75-31-06-000-801, TASK 75-31-06-400-801.
- If the wiring and SBV check good, consider swapping the A and B ECUs for the left engine, remove and replace IAW AMM TASK 76-10-05-000-801, TASK 76-10-05-400-801.





