04/13/21
Message Overview:
Message Description:
Left engine surge bleed valve B suspect.
[MCID 0421]
SBV B suspect.
Detection of suspect operation in SBV B.
The electronic control units (ECUs) have detected P3 pressure changes and suspect SBV B is slow to respond.
Possible Causes:
- Surge Bleed Valve (SBV) B
- Associated Wiring
Troubleshooting Tips:
Advisory Wire/Service Bulletin: None
Forum Articles/Infoservice/Newsletter: None
- If the L or R ENGINE MINOR FAULT CAS message is shown with this fault, this is a Short Term dispatch (STD) fault and is subject to correction outlined in the Honeywell LEMM SUBTASK 5-10-00-200-003.
- If a L or R FADEC FAIL CAS message is shown, this is a No Dispatch (ND) fault and is subject to correction outlined in the Honeywell LEMM SUBTASK 5-10-00-200-003.
- Check for the following MDC messages displayed with the fault: X-channel bus 1A (MCID 0905), X-channel bus 1B (MCID 0906), X-channel discrete 1A (MCID 0933), X-channel discrete 1B (MCID 0934). If any of the above MCID codes are posted, correct the cross channel faults first.
- Issues with the N1 shutoff (Broken Shaft Connector), or bleed surge valves, contact Honeywell FSR and find out about status of Dash 12 W5 harness. Ref Honeywell S/B AS907-76-9011. Most likely tied to connector pin friction or loose connector.
Quick Links:
| Removal of the Trim-Surge Bleed Valves | AMM 75-31-06-000-801 |
| Installation of the Trim-Surge Bleed Valves | AMM 75-31-06-400-801 |
| Removal of the Engine Electronic Control Unit (ECU) | AMM 76-10-05-000-801 |
| Installation of the Engine Electronic Control Unit (ECU) | AMM 76-10-05-400-801 |
| Wiring - Maintenance Practices - ALL | SPM 20-12-00-02 |
| Wire Repair - Maintenance Practices - ALL | SPM 20-12-10-02 |
| Electrical Connectors - Maintenance Practice - ALL | SPM 20-20-00-02 |
Troubleshooting Recommendations:
- MCID 0421 fault only is present, troubleshoot using the following steps for aircraft and engine fault isolation with reference to the Light Engine Maintenance Manual TASK 72-00-00-810-064.
- Reset and reboot the ECU to recheck the MDC MCID for the posted fault.
- Remove the connector on the ECU 1A W4P13, ECU 1B W3P9 and inspect for burned or pushed back pins/sockets, particularly pins 54 and 49, inspect for damage, then check the following segments per the table, repair wiring if required per the wiring manual standard practices.
- On W3P9 and W4P13 pins 54 and 49, document the resistance value down through the coil of the Solenoid A of Surge Bleed Valve A. Resistance should be 10 to 80Ω, IAW Honeywell LMM.
- If the wiring is suspected, access W3P12 & W4P16. Check the connector and pins for damage. Consider ringing out the SBV B, particularly on pin 8 and 9 of W5J1& W5J9.
- Check the connection on the SBV B by examining W5P6.
From To Value W3P9 Pin 54 W3P9 Pin 49 10 to 80 Ω W4P13 Pin 54 W4P13 Pin 49 10 to 80 Ω W5J1 Pin 8 W5J1 Pin 9 10 to 80 Ω W5J9 Pin 8 W5J9 Pin 9 10 to 80 Ω W5P6 Pin 1 W5P6 Pin 2 10 to 80 Ω W5P6 Pin 3 W5P6 Pin 4 10 to 80 Ω - If the wiring is good and the valve solenoid resistance is out of limits, replace SBV B Main Surge Bleed Valve IAW AMM TASK 75-31-05-000-801, TASK 75-31-05-400-801.
- If the wiring and SBV check good, consider swapping the A and B ECUs for the left engine, remove and replace IAW AMM TASK 76-10-05-000-801, TASK 76-10-05-400-801.





