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01/24/23

Message Overview:

L PYLON BLEED LEAK
(Warning)

DDG Reference: None
Pilot Action (QRH): ENVR 06-3
System Description: 30-11-00 - Anti-Ice System
36-20-00 - Indicating System
Schematic Diagram: 36-21-00 - Bleed-Air Leak-Detection System
L PYLON SCHEMATIC
Wiring Diagram: 36-21-11 - Sheet 1 - Pack Loop - ALL
36-21-13 - Sheet 1 - Left Anti-Ice Fuselage Loop - ALL

Message Description:

A red 'L PYLON BLEED LEAK' (Warning) CAS message indicates a bleed air leak in duct work between the power plant interface and the left Intermediate Pressure Valve (IPV) and the left High Pressure Valve (HPV), or short circuit in the Left Hand Pylon loop.

NOTE: The pylon bleed loop is a dual loop system.

Possible Causes:

  • Left Bleed Loop Sensor 1 (MT67)
  • Left Pylon Loop 1 Channel A (MT63)
  • Right Pylon Loop 2 Channel B (MT44)
  • Associated Wiring

Troubleshooting Tips:

Advisory Wire/Service Bulletin:

  • AW300-30-0354 - Potential Piccolo Tube Damage When Replacing a Bleed Loop Element
  • AW300-36-0387 - Bleed Air Leak Detection Loop Elements

Forum Articles/Infoservice/Newsletter: None

Flight Operation Notifications Manual (FONM): None

Troubleshooting Guide for Bleed Loops

  • Leak detection sensors monitor the bleed air lines from the pylon and along the leading edge piccolo tubes for unacceptable leaks in the system
  • There are two loops along each line, IASC 1 channel B monitors loops RH Pylon/Wing Loop and LH Fuselage/Wing Loop. IASC 2 channel B monitors RH Fuselage/Wing Loop and LH Pylon/Wing Loop
  • Each loop element has a concentric outer conductor, a layer of eutectic salt compound and an inner conductor. The loop elements are connected to the IAS controllers through the routing of the usual aircraft harnesses
  • The loop elements are electrically connected in series and the concentric outer conductor is connected to the aircraft ground. The layer of eutectic salt compound insulates the outer conductor from the inner conductor. When hot bleed-air gets on the loop element, the eutectic salt compound becomes conductive and lets the outer conductor make contact with the inner conductor. The IAS controller senses that the outer conductor is grounded and supplies the inner conductor with alternating current for its resistance measurement
  • The IAS controller measures this resistance and shows the correct message on the EICAS
  • If the temperature in the area of the wing anti-ice ducts is more than 460°F (237.80°C), the loop element in that area senses a bleed-air leak

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Quick Links:

Component Location AMM 36-21-00-992-801
Operational Test of the Bleed-Air Leak-Detection and Warning System AMM 36-21-00-710-801
Resistance Check of the Bleed-Air Leak-Detection Loops AMM 36-21-00-760-801
Removal of the Left Bleed-Loop Element AMM 36-21-01-000-801
Installation of the Left Bleed-Loop Element AMM 36-21-01-400-801
Removal of the Left Pylon-Loop Element AMM 36-21-05-000-801
Installation of the Left Pylon-Loop Element AMM 36-21-05-400-801
Removal of the Left Pylon Anti-Ice Leak-Detection Element AMM 36-21-05-000-802
Installation of the Left Pylon Anti-Ice Leak-Detection Element AMM 36-21-05-400-802
Removal of the Right Pylon-Loop Element AMM 36-21-07-000-801
Installation of the Right Pylon-Loop Element AMM 36-21-07-400-801
Safety Precautions - Maintenance Practices - ALL SPM 20-00-01-02-01
Wire Repair - Maintenance Practices - ALL SPM 20-12-10-02-01
Electrical Connectors - Description and Operation - ALL SPM 20-20-00-00-01

Troubleshooting Recommendations:

Go into the system diagnostics to the IASC 1 channel B (L Pylon Loop). The IASC LRU test page will provide pages to perform a leak detection system test and check past event locations.

  1. Locate the short circuit or leak using the Leak Event location function.
  2. Check for short circuit at the corresponding connector.
  3. Check the loop routing for a fouling condition on a hot surface (loop touching duct).
    NOTE: Before replacing a loop always look at the loop for routing, ensure loop is not too close to the plumbing or the bleed hole on a valve. Review AMM 36-21-00-992-801 for component location. See individual loops for specific routing information.
  4. Use a Tegam meter to check capacitance and inductance between the inner and outer conductor of the corresponding loop. Perform the impedance check per the Leak detection how to.
  5. Do the close out.

Leak Event Location History

The Leak Event Location History will identify when the system posted a fault, what loop failed and a general location based on the approximate fuselage/wing station location of the overheat condition.

The CH350 reports the name of the bleed loop and fuselage station or wing station and general location of the leak in percentage. A 0% location starts at the beginning of the loop and the end of the loop is 100% so a 5% indication will be 5% of the total loop length.

  • When a location is identified in the leak event location history, Inspect the plumbing for possible leaks
  • If the leak can not be identified, perform the system functional check IAW AMM 36-21-00-710-801

Leak Detection Test

  1. The test will check all of the loops the IASC is monitoring and pass or fail them. This test may fail if there is a lot of action going on in the IASC, retesting may pass the failed loops. This test is disabled with the wing heat system on.
    NOTE: If the LH Pylon Bleed Loop is SHORTED/OPEN the IASC will post a L PYLON LOOP FAIL (Cyan) CAS, along with two MDC fault messages.

    1. The test will identify if the LH Pylon/Wing bleed loops have a short or open (> 136 Ω). Perform resistance checks on the applicable loop per AMM 36-21-00-760-801.
    LOOP VALUE (OHMS)
    LH and RH Pylon 14 Ω

  2. Select the associated MDC Fault message:
  3. Do the close out.

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