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05/06/21

Message Overview:

Message Name:

OPEN CIRCUIT

Message Code:

B3-008104

Associated CAS:

BLEED LOOP FAULT
(Advisory)

WING A/ICE LOOP FAIL
(Advisory)

Reporting LRU: R FUSE/WING LOOP
System Description: 30-21-00
Schematic Diagram: 30-12-00
36-21-00
Wiring Diagram: 36-21-05
36-21-13

Message Description:

The RIGHT FUSE / WING LOOP is detected open circuit by the IASC-2 during the system self-test. Check the loop and wiring continuity to ground.

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Possible Causes:

  • R WAI/Fuse Loop Sensor 1B (MT46)
  • R WAI/Fuse Loop Sensor 2B (MT48)
  • R WAI/Fuse Loop Sensor 3B (MT50)
  • R WAI/Fuse Loop Sensor 4B (MT52)
  • R WAI/Fuse Loop Sensor 5B (MT104)
  • R WAI/Fuse Loop Sensor 6B (MT120)
  • Associated Wiring

Troubleshooting Tips:

Advisory Wire/Service Bulletin:

Forum Articles/Infoservice/Newsletter: None

Bleed Loop Routing and Visual Aid Guide

Troubleshooting Guide for Bleed Loops

NOTE: If the bleed loop resistance value is within limits try cleaning the bleed loop connections per SPM 51-25-00-110-801 and then reapply lubrication to the connections per SPM 20-20-00. Lubrication part number is called out in each bleed loop installation procedure. Run the aircraft after the cleaning and applying lubing procedure and see if the BLEED LOOP FAULT clears.

Quick Links:

Removal of the Right Pylon Anti-Ice Leak-Detection Element AMM 36-21-07-000-802
Installation of the Right Pylon Anti-Ice Leak-Detection Element AMM 36-21-07-400-802
Removal of the Right Cross-Under Duct Leak-Detection-Element AMM 36-21-15-000-802
Installation of the Right Cross-Under Duct Leak-Detection-Element AMM 36-21-15-400-802
Removal of the Wing-Root Leak-Detection Element AMM 36-21-17-000-801
Installation of the Wing-Root Leak-Detection Element AMM 36-21-17-400-801
Removal of the Wing-Middle Leak-Detection Element AMM 36-21-17-000-802
Installation of the Wing-Middle Leak-Detection Element AMM 36-21-17-400-802
Removal of the Wing-Outboard Leak-Detection Element AMM 36-21-17-000-803
Installation of the Wing-Outboard Leak-Detection Element AMM 36-21-17-400-803
Fenwal Safety Systems CMM 26-14-47
Solvent Cleaning SPM 51-25-00-110-801
Wiring - Maintenance Practices - ALL SPM 20-12-00-02
Wire Repair - Maintenance Practices - ALL SPM 20-12-10-02
Electrical Connectors - Maintenance Practice - ALL SPM 20-20-00-02

Troubleshooting Recommendations:

  1. Gain access to IASC #2 located behind the lavatory sink just forward of the water pallet.
  2. Disconnect connector A56P4 from the IASC and check resistance between pins 4 and 5. Resistance should be approximately 64.7 Ω.
  3. Isolate a system open circuit through standard practices by isolating the six* different loops and wiring from the IASC. Repair faulty wire segment or replace loop as required.
    *Only the first loop is identified, the IASC and MDC can not identify which section of a multiple loop segment is at fault during a short or open condition and will only list the first loop of the segment.
    RH Fuse/Wing Bleed Loop Information
    RH Fuse/Wing Bleed Loop Schematic

NOTE: Measure Insulation resistance and line resistance of the detection loops as per the Leak Detection Elements Troubleshooting Sheet. Make sure line resistance & insulation values are within the specified limits.

NOTE: Often while troubleshooting this discrepancy the CAS is not usually present. However what you may find is higher than normal resistance such as 10 Ω or higher above nominal. It is not high enough to trip a bleed loop fault CAS message but high enough to assist in troubleshooting. When you get the resistance value down to nominal values then it is safe to say you've corrected the discrepancy.

NOTE: Dirty contacts can lead to an increase in the loop resistance values to the point of tripping a BLEED LOOP FAULT CAS/OPEN CIRCUIT B3 message. Make sure that all connectors of the applicable loop are clean.

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